July 18, 2012 at 1:56 pm #14486
Let me start by saying that I am a big fan of the Propulsion theme so please don’t consider this a rant from a disgruntled customer. Rather, it is a fan trying to maximize the theme’s potential. That said, I am finding the image management in the Propulsion theme to be confusing and frustrating and so I am reaching out for help.
I am using Propulsion’s Woocommerce functionality to support a large shop with a large number of images. Obviously, when supporting large numbers of images, it is important to manage them efficiently from a storage, configuration, workflow and maintenance perspective. After spending hours reading support threads in this forum, it is still very unclear to me how images are being managed by WordPress, Woocommerce and Propulsion to render the total end-user experience.
Specifically, I’d like to understand the relationship between the WP Media Library, the Gallery and the Slideshow. I understand that the Media Library is a WP feature but where do the Gallery and Slideshow collections come from? Are the Gallery and Slideshow collections part of Propulsion?
It seems that the Gallery collection is attached to each post and is used to render images in the Propulsion slideshow. But when I add an image to a slideshow, there is an option to add from the Gallery, implying that the Gallery collection is somehow separate from the Slideshow collection.
My first question is how should images be added to these three collections (media library, gallery, slideshow) to render correctly in the theme. I am especially interested in how product images should be added to these collections. My next question is, how do the various shop pages, product pages and sliders draw from the three collections to render images throughout the site?
Secondly, how should image sizes be adjusted throughout the theme? From scanning through countless support threads it appears that there are a number of parameters scattered throughout the Woocommerce plugin settings, Propulsion theme settings and Propulsion codebase that affect the size of images displayed on the product page, the shop pages, the sliders, etc. Some threads recommend that images be resized in the WP settings, others recommend changing Avia config settings, and still others recommend re-uploading images.
It is difficult to configure image dimensions consistently across a site if it is necessary to change different parameters in different places. I understand that we are dealing with WP, plugins and a theme all layered atop one another and that it may not be possible to centralize all parameters. However, if the parameters cannot all be centralized, can we at least get a single definitive support document or thread that describes where to find all of the image size parameters and how to adjust them?
In summary, it appears that Propulsion’s image management comprises a complex set of collections, parameters and administration screens that work in concert to affect the presentation of images in different places throughout the theme. It would be extremely helpful if someone could provide a definitive support thread describing how all of this works so that customers of the Propulsion theme don’t have to dig through support threads to piece this together… I’ve been digging for a while and I still can’t figure it all out!
Thanks in advance for your help.
MikeJuly 21, 2012 at 12:13 pm #83654
the image/media managment of WP doesn’t work very well (imho) but it’s not a drawback of the theme but a general WP limitation. Afaik WP 3.5 will change the media gallery workflow dramatically and I hope this will simplify many things. However the situation now is:
1) If you upload an image on a post/page editor screen WP will attach this image to the current post/page. It will be part of the so-called “gallery”. The “gallery” contains all images which are attached to a certain post/page and you can display these images by using the gallery shortcode: http://codex.wordpress.org/Gallery_Shortcode
Unfortunately it’s not possible to attach one image to several posts/pages – thus you’d need to upload an image over and over again (for each post/page) if you want to make it part of several galleries. Hopefully this situation will change with WP3.5.
2) The media gallery contains all media files – regardless if they’re attached to a post/page or not. You can insert these files by using the “Insert into Post” button but you can’t attach them to posts if they’re not already attached – thus you can’t add them to post/page “galleries” too.
3) Kriesi’s slideshow system tries to compensate these drawbacks – it creates a third layer which allows you to select existing files from the media gallery – regardless if they’re attached to the current post/page or not. The third layer will save the selected slideshow files into a seperate post meta data field and it works independent from WPs media gallery.
4) WP generates all required thumbnails automatically. Unfortunately it’s currently not possible to upload these thumbnails manually or to crop them manually. Again, this may change with WP3.5.July 30, 2012 at 2:14 am #83655
Wow! No wonder I was so confused. You are right that WP image/media management doesn’t work very well. Thank you for this excellent description of the current state of affairs. I too hope that WP 3.5 cleans this up. What a mess. Thanks again.
MichaelJuly 30, 2012 at 3:22 am #83656
This is actually one of the best concise explanations I have now read of how WP image management works, it cleared up a confusion I had about this too. As a relative WordPress amateur I’ve found WordPress’s default image management to be unintuitive in some ways. I’m really looking forward to 3.5 and how they improve image management. Thanks Dude :)July 30, 2012 at 6:29 am #83657
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